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Every now and then, I wonder what the payout to the Kirby’s was. I’ve heard a marginally reliable eight figures, which is likely at any point more than Lee got. The funny thing about the payout to the Kirby’s is that even low eight figures seems like a lot yet given that Disney paid $4b for Marvel, what’s eight figures more? As for who deserves more, Lee or Kirby, it’s pure apples and oranges.

And that’s because a huge factor in the mess is whether Kirby was creating characters without any request from a publisher, producer or whatever. The only things that come close to mind is the Silver Spider (actually a four man creation) and something called Tiger 21 IIRC, which maybe at a producer’s request. So essentially everything — certainly at Marvel — was created at Marvel’s request or maybe even in collaboration with Lee.

Which gets to maybe legal hairsplitting.

Based on researching and drafting a post-trial memorandum of law on the very issue of work for hire, WFH has nothing to do with whether the creator was an employee but whether they were treated as as employee directed to do the work and the like. (My case involved an independent contractor who because of fraud or just bullshit had to create software after wrongly assuring that there was off the shelf software available. Very much not an employee nor were there any such claims.

Now, if the judge said otherwise, well, all I’d add is that they look like they got a lot of the facts wrong in the section you quoted re the various characters.

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